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KillerJello
07-02-2003, 06:37 PM
I think I finally found out why I am always down and out of it. I try too hard to make other people happy and in turn, it is just bringing me down..... I realised this last night while out pulling a transmission out of treys car. This week has been pretty hectic, I have been doing someone a favor by pulling their transmission with help of a friend(1994TransAm on camaroz28.com). After pulling the transmission last night, i was supposed to take it down to detroit to drop it off, but there were no vehicles around to take, and ill be damned if im gonna put a greasy, nasty transmission in the back seat of my camaro which still has a PERFECT interior besides the front seats which have water stains on them from the t-tops. so this morning, i beg and beg my mom to let me use the durango to run it down, she finally agrees, as long as i get gas money from trey to cover the trip since the truck is almost on E. I get down there at the designated time and spot to meet up, and i wait over an hour, he doesnt show up, i call his cell phone like 5 times, but no answer either time, and now by this time i was really starting to get seriously pissed off that i drove an hour one way for nothing, and i DID NOT have the gas to make it back to flint.... I am extremely lucky that i finally remembered that i had a $5 bill in my wallet that was for gas in my camaro so i could go job hunting, which i desperately needed to do, but now it was wasted on just getting back to flint, and i BARELY made it home.

Well, right as im getting home, he calls, and wants me to run it back down at two o'clock. I said i would try if i could get gas and stuff. well my mom leaves in the truck, and i had a job interview, so i go there in the camaro which has a very bad wheel hub, and on the way back, it starts screeching extremely lound, and vibrating, so using the camaro to run the tranny down is out of the question. my mom just got home, and she refuses to let me use the truck after this morning with the whole gas deal (i was told i would get gas money when i got it down there, but since he wasnt there, scratch that idea). he doesnt feel like driving up to pick it up, though the tranny is in the driveway right in front of the garage wrapped in garbage bags, in case im not home and he does decide to come get it. yet he NEEDS the tranny tonight to take it out of state to get it rebuilt. I have no way of getting it down to him.

then theres other problems, my dad and me have been working on treys car, and trey wants it looking good and done in two weeks for the national event, and while at first it seemed possible, now that i think about it, i kinda doubt it will be done, it has no driveline, the entire motor is ripped apart, no exhaust on it, and there are MAJOR problems with bodywork, as his frame is severely twisted, and none of the body panels will line up. If i shim the front quarters to match with the hood, then they will not line up on the bottom, or with the moldings in the door, and it will look extremely half assed. the rear end is twisted too, you can actually see a bend in the rear drivers side sub frame. Basically the car needs a whole new body/frame, and just transplant the engine over. this car should have been totalled out in the first place and he should have collected insurance on it. the more i work on it, the more things i notice wrong with the car, and while id like to keep my hopes up, it is just looking very very bleak getting the car back together, let alone getting it to look decent, and getting the hood lined up (sits two inches up on one side due to bent frame) before the national event.

and then, my dad has absolutely NO time currently to paint his car. my dad has been on the road 7 days a week for the past few weeks, hes maybe home for like 6 hours a week, the rest is spent on the road (hes a long distance truck driver for GM) 6 hours is not enough to paint a car. it looks like his hours are going to be this way throughout the summer.......

All this stuff is bringing me down ALOT and i just realised it last night. I dont even have time to fix MY car or go job hunting (though i think i finally got one at Comcast, as they seemed VERY interested in me) I have been working on other peoples cars all day every day, and my car is going to hell because of it.

I dont mind working on cars, but like i said, i need a break sometimes, just to collect my thoughts, and relax.



thank you for listening to my extremely long rant.

now my mom just left again, cant use the grandparents car or anything cause they are going up to the casino in mt. pleasant....

Q
07-02-2003, 08:04 PM
Dude, fuck that little skinny bitch. Words to live by, watch out for number one, thats YOU!!!! Make yourself happy first, otherwise you will never be happy. If you have a little extra in the tank after your happy, use it on someone you care about. A friend, or family, or even your car. Answer this, you getting paid for this? If you are then it is work, you have to do it. If your not, tell the little bitch to get bent and do his own work if he is in a hurry. I mean, I enjoy working on cars :hmm: Well sometimes I do. And to help a freind is a great thing. Like when we did Brads Iroc a few weeks back. It felt good to help a friend, and at the same time see the car function better. But I didnt sacrifice my time to do it. If I had things to do, they got done. Brad understood that, and we worked around it, TOGETHER, and got it done. Sometimes people take advantage of a good thing, just make sure your not the "good thing"

Q

KillerJello
07-02-2003, 08:43 PM
he gives me these deadlines that it has to be done by, like the car has to be completely finished, rebuilt, painted, detailed etc. by july 26th for the nationals, it aint gonna happed.... most ive been paid is in food, he buys me lunch when hes up. i cant get the car out now, its in about 500 peices and is not moveable, so basically im stuck with it till its back together.... trey comes up like once a month to help for a couple hours, then when hes going to school here in flint (5 minutes from my house) hes always too busy with school to help.this all started out as bodywork, and waterpump only, and it has turned into an entire engine rebuild.....

I guess im too nice of a guy, and i guess im a wimp, since i dont like confrontations. everytime i work on it, i get even more sick of it. i can barely fit my car in the garage at night and everything.

I feel obligated though, because in the beginning i told him i would do the body work and paint it for him. now for some reason im rebuilding his engine, and it keeps piling up more and more...


He keeps telling me to put that tranny in my car to bring it down, and there is no way in hell that greasy leakiy thing is going in my perfect interior. I care about the inside of my car (hell, my console isnt even broke yet :razz: ) he offered adam last night $5 to drive it from flint to southern detroit, and that aint gonna happen.i dont mind working on his car, but i would like help, and i dont want bs stuff being added on.... also he invites himself up... ill have plans, then he calls me and says hes on his way up to mess with the car, despite my plans. i would like some weekends where i can do what i want, instead of laying under a greasy car all day working on it.


This is the reason im not going to make camarofest this year even though i desperately want to go. none of my friends near here own camaros, or are even interested in them, so im screwed on finding someone to ride down with. I would have had my car ready by now if i wasnt doing some work on his all the time. I was really looking forward to going down this year, but due to a bad wheel hub, tranny thats going bad (it prolly could have made it down and back though) and the fact that i couldnt come up with money for registration due to me not having a job, because ive been busy on his car instead of job hunting, looks like i am royally screwed this year, i highly doubt anyone will let me ride down with them, and hang out with them, since i dont have any other way to get there.

I can only hope next year i will be able to make it




I also have to find time to put my good heads/rockers/other assorted goodies on my car, which i havent had time to do......

I need to come up with at least $500 to even think about fixing my tranny/find a good used one, and i DEFINITELY need a job. ive been applying EVERYWHERE, and nobody calls me back, i dont understand why.....

Grover
07-02-2003, 10:21 PM
Jason, I have to agree with Q on this. Even though I have never met Trey, I always got the feeling that he tries to use people to get what he wants.

You definitely need to work on making yourself happy (finding a job, fixing your car, whatever) before trying to make some selfish person happy. If you do end up fixing Treys car, you DEFINITELY MUST get paid for all your time and effort that you put into it (lunch doesn't cut it). If you need to move his car out of your garage, let me know. I have some of those car dollies that we could put it on and push it out for the garbage guys to pick it up. I would drive up to Flint to help you do it.

Q
07-02-2003, 10:24 PM
Great idea Chad, save a spot on the bumper for me to push too. I mean, if your working together to get the car done, that is one thing. But to do all the work on someone elses car, thats just wrong. :nono: He should buy you a new tranny from me :D Now were talking payment. :smokin:

Q

Yomama
07-02-2003, 10:43 PM
Jason, you still want to go maybe on Saturday??

PurpleHaze95
07-02-2003, 10:50 PM
Jason, Q is right. My great-grandfather (who was a sailor) had a saying: one hand for the ship's wheel, and one for yourself. You can't spend all your time on yourself, because then you're a self-absorbed ass. But if you spend all your time on other people and none on yourself, then it burns you out. I'm really sorry you're in this position, I know from experience how hard it is to tell people "no"...

Q
07-02-2003, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by PurpleHaze95@Jul 2 2003, 10:50 PM
I know from experience how hard it is to tell people "no"...
Really :moon:

KillerJello
07-03-2003, 01:05 AM
Originally posted by Yomama@Jul 2 2003, 10:43 PM
Jason, you still want to go maybe on Saturday??
yeah, i would love to go, but i am in flint.... im not sure where you are located, but it has to be quite a bit of a detour...... im gonna do some asking around with my parents, meybe they will let me take the durango if i clean the pool and hot tub or something :) I was really looking forward to entering my car this year, but between the tranny and wheel hub, it just wont make it down there unless it is trailored, and i missed registration....

and I have been working on treys car since January, he occasionally stops by and drops off more crap to put on it.... he needs to stop spending thousands of dollars on a perfectly good engine and tranny that i would kill to have.... what good is a new engine gonna do in a twisted up wreck of a car? he cant get it through his head that the car should have been totalled out. my dad tries to explain it to him all the time. and my dad is also getting sick of it in the garage. weve had to park the durango outside every night because treys car is in there every night taking up the durangos spot. im gonna talk with trey next time hes over, and i think i have to tell him to get it out of here, and do the engine work somewhere else, and bring it back when it needs the body work, as that was the only thing i was supposed to do in the first place, but even with body work, it will look like shit, the hood sits a good 3-4" off the fender on the drivers side the car is bent so badly.


and Q, if those trannies really are 0mileage or close to it, you can count on me picking one up as soon as i come up with the cash..... i really wanted to build a tranny up a bit, but with the way i am financially, and the fact i have been driving with a slipping tranny for the past 7 months, (it hasnt been working right for the past year, but slipping started 7 ago) i will settle for ANYTHING that works..... i am sick of letting all the way up on the gas every time i want to shift..... cant be good on gas mileage either. so save one for me, i will definitely buy one, as long as it will bolt up to my engine (3800) its just a matter of me getting the money.


Like becca said, its hard to say no, i guess thats why im too nice, people ask me to do something, and i just cant say no... and right now i am so overloaded on cars im supposed to be working on, and treys is just holding me up.

Timberwolf
07-03-2003, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by Dreamer1q@Jul 2 2003, 10:24 PM
Great idea Chad, save a spot on the bumper for me to push too. I mean, if your working together to get the car done, that is one thing. But to do all the work on someone elses car, thats just wrong. :nono: He should buy you a new tranny from me :D Now were talking payment. :smokin:

Q
Thats what I told Jason back when you mentioned having one. Seemed like a good START for payment anyway....

PurpleHaze95
07-03-2003, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by Dreamer1q@Jul 2 2003, 11:17 PM
Really :moon:
Yes, really. :hmm:

What am I supposed to be saying no to here, spanking you?

Q
07-03-2003, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by PurpleHaze95@Jul 3 2003, 11:46 AM
Yes, really. :hmm:

What am I supposed to be saying no to here, spanking you?
SPANKING :wow: Suhweet :lol:

Pyro
07-03-2003, 10:39 PM
:rofl:

treyZ28
07-08-2003, 04:21 AM
Ok Jason Now that you have told the truth, Lets tell the whole truth

but before we do- Q, here is a large fuck you from me to you. use it well.


Jason, If i asked you 1 more time "you cool with doing this?/ are you sure its cool/ ur pops have time" I would have exploded.

EVERYTIME I ASK YOU THESE THINGS- you laugh, blow me off and say "yeah i like it/ it keeps me busy" I had to ask you at least 10x a day. AT LEAST. What do you want from me?

I ask you EVERY SINGLE TIME. JESUS CRIST, if its a fucking problem say something. I'm not phsycic jason, I ask you questions and you blow steam up my ass.

I absolutly refuse to believe my car takes up too much time for you to go job hunting, :bs: sorry. There is no way you put 8hrs a day into that. Your trans is slipping. Did you ever ask ONCE for me to help you take it out? Nope. you always tell me you dont have $900 for a new trans.

And who was it arguing agaist your dad saying "no it can be shimmed up, i know it.. yada yada" when he was saying it couldn't be?

And how many times have we had arangements to meet on a saturday morning. The next morning i check my email and get some responce in a thread saying "ohh btw trey, tomorrow is no good,." Had I not checked that tread, I would have had a 2 hr drive each way for nothing. Matt is pretty much the only kid I hang out with regularly- And ask him how many times i've driven to his place which is 20 min away. maybe 5 or 6 times since march.

Why did i pack up and "just leave" for NY? Because I get to be home 4 weeks a year to see my family, and this was one of them. I love the way you NEVER confront me about any of this and just go bitch and moan on another forum.

Why didn't we get the trans out last week when i was up there jason?
Why didn't i pick up my cell jason? Didn't I tell you it was lost?
And how did we miss each otehr? we were supposed to meet 9-:30. I got stuck in traffic and got there at 9:45.

You leave all the not so insignificant details.



Just for the record jason- My was speaking to mom just yesterday and we were going to buy you a trans when it was all done so you could get upto the national event like i told you. Christ, when I get back, i'll barrow my buddies car hauler and pick up my car when I get back. You are done with it from here on in. All I want you to do is take it off the jack stands.

I appreciate your help, but this is rediculious.


Gover- Fuck you.


Next time you want to piss moan and bitch about me, at least confront me first. WTF is this shit? your pissed off at me so you run off like a little girl posting on another forum?'

I'm so frustrated I cant say enough so i'm callin it quits here.
If you have something to say, you have my email address, screen name, phone number and maybe even my adress. email, IM, call carrier pigon- something. Dont bitch and moan on another forum. Dont like it, dont say you do like it. simple as that. I have asked you 100x if you want to just call it quits. 100x you say "No i like working on it, it keeps me busy i have nothing else to do"

Gover and Q-
heres another big F-U-C-K Y-O-U to both of you. There was one person that had the decency to show me this thread, the rest of you are dickfaces.

edit:

$5? when the hell did i offer $5. I said I'll give you money for gas :mad:

Q
07-08-2003, 06:44 AM
I dont really give a fuck if you like it or not. Thats the cool thing, we can speak freely here. Based on the information I was given I expressed my opinion. I suggest you understand the people you piss off before you do it. See ya at the national event. You want to talk your shit, I promise you will have your chance there.

As for "running" to another forum to post about you, heres a news flash dumbfuck, this is OUR club, for OUR side of the state, and WE POST on it. We didnt run, it was just another day in the life. As I said before, you want to talk smack, do it to my face. I promise, I have no problem doing it to you. In fact I will look for you so I can do it. Promise.

Q

Grover
07-08-2003, 07:03 AM
Well Trey here is fuck you back, wait let me spell it so you can understand it FUK YU. All I said is I would help Jason get your car out of his garage so he could work on his. If you don't like what we say here take your little ass back to NY where you can be with your family and have a real sandwich.

Q
07-08-2003, 07:34 AM
Originally posted by Grover@Jul 8 2003, 07:03 AM
have a real sandwich.
:rofl:

Timberwolf
07-08-2003, 09:57 AM
:nono: :argue: :flip: :mad: :finger: :banghead: :bigfinger: :rofl:

treyZ28
07-08-2003, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by Dreamer1q@Jul 8 2003, 06:44 AM
I dont really give a fuck if you like it or not. Thats the cool thing, we can speak freely here. Based on the information I was given I expressed my opinion. I suggest you understand the people you piss off before you do it. See ya at the national event. You want to talk your shit, I promise you will have your chance there.

As for "running" to another forum to post about you, heres a news flash dumbfuck, this is OUR club, for OUR side of the state, and WE POST on it. We didnt run, it was just another day in the life. As I said before, you want to talk smack, do it to my face. I promise, I have no problem doing it to you. In fact I will look for you so I can do it. Promise.

Q
should i bring my truck? or my bicycle? 13.9? :rofl:

fuckin aye for detriot speed works and 400rwhp :lol:

Q
07-08-2003, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by treyZ28+Jul 8 2003, 12:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (treyZ28 @ Jul 8 2003, 12:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Dreamer1q@Jul 8 2003, 06:44 AM
I dont really give a fuck if you like it or not. Thats the cool thing, we can speak freely here. Based on the information I was given I expressed my opinion. I suggest you understand the people you piss off before you do it. See ya at the national event. You want to talk your shit, I promise you will have your chance there.

As for "running" to another forum to post about you, heres a news flash dumbfuck, this is OUR club, for OUR side of the state, and WE POST on it. We didnt run, it was just another day in the life. As I said before, you want to talk smack, do it to my face. I promise, I have no problem doing it to you. In fact I will look for you so I can do it. Promise.

Q
should i bring my truck? or my bicycle? 13.9? :rofl:

fuckin aye for detriot speed works and 400rwhp :lol: [/b][/quote]
Your kidding right. I mean unless you install pedals, or bring barney and wilma with you, your car is going to be the prettiest lawn ornament there. At least prettiest in the fact that it use to resemble a Camaro. Now its a twisted hunk of shit. Hmmm, wonder who will run faster, you or your car

Grover
07-08-2003, 02:11 PM
Maybe he should bring his truck with the mighty 4.8L engine in it. :lol:

I could beat that truck with at least 2 of my 3 vehicles and possibly even the third.

'97 T/A WS6 :thumbup:
'00 Yukon 5.3L :hmm:
'02 GTP :thumbup:

Q
07-08-2003, 02:21 PM
Theres a good idea Chad, then we would all have something to laugh at too. :lol:

treyZ28
07-08-2003, 02:32 PM
wow Q- your bad ass now,
your 383 camaro with AFR's can beat my stock silverado :think:

I'lll just drop $3000 on a bone stock z28, add a CAI and romp your car :lol:

you are truely a king amonst engine builders :lol:


13.9, i'm still crackin up.

you too grover, i'm glad to see your trans am and Grand prix can beat my 5000lb truck. Something to be proud of.

Grover
07-08-2003, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by treyZ28@Jul 8 2003, 02:32 PM

you too grover, i'm glad to see your trans am and Grand prix can beat my 5000lb truck. Something to be proud of.
Don't forget I said I would race you in my Yukon, which is just as heavy as your truck.

Oh, BTW Q's car is only a 355 your's is the mighty 383.

treyZ28
07-08-2003, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by Grover+Jul 8 2003, 02:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Grover @ Jul 8 2003, 02:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--treyZ28@Jul 8 2003, 02:32 PM

you too grover, i'm glad to see your trans am and Grand prix can beat my 5000lb truck. Something to be proud of.
Don't forget I said I would race you in my Yukon, which is just as heavy as your truck.

Oh, BTW Q's car is only a 355 your's is the mighty 383. [/b][/quote]
its still a 14 second one at that... With his AFR's Vs my LT1 castings. Hell my STCOK heads would EASILY take him out by over a second :lol:

like i said, i was faster stock. thats downright embarassing.

Will your yukon beating me make Q's car any less embarassing?



Hey Q-
Next summer- and remember this- when my car is done we'll race anywhere, any time. Drag strip, road coarse, street race- whatever.

My truck should be blown too so you can race that if it gets your jollies up :lol: but please, keep talking about how your bad ass 400rwhp camaro will beat my truck :think:

reminds me of the hyundia guys talking about thier kill stories

"i beat my moms minivan today"

treyZ28
07-08-2003, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by Dreamer1q@Jul 8 2003, 02:21 PM
Theres a good idea Chad, then we would all have something to laugh at too. :lol:
as if your car wasn't enough to laugh at :thumbup:

Timberwolf
07-08-2003, 03:04 PM
I didn't think Q said anything about beating your truck with his car. I think that was Grover. Sounds like Q wanted to lay the beating down in other ways... :hmm:

Becca_007
07-08-2003, 03:22 PM
I'm interested in knowing what everyone's stock times were. I want to know how my first runs compare.

PurpleHaze95
07-08-2003, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by Becca_007@Jul 8 2003, 03:22 PM
I'm interested in knowing what everyone's stock times were. I want to know how my first runs compare.
Sure, we can talk stock times, just watch out for the pissing contest going on. *rolls eyes*

C'mon, guys, at least take it to PMs. I don't want to see this board turn into a big flame war, or this club turn into a big fight. Then what are people going to think when they stop by the forum to check the club out?

treyZ28
07-08-2003, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by Timberwolf@Jul 8 2003, 03:04 PM
I didn't think Q said anything about beating your truck with his car. I think that was Grover. Sounds like Q wanted to lay the beating down in other ways... :hmm:
fawk yea, beat me up Q! that will make your car fast! or prove you are worth a rats ass :thumbup:


ohh wait, no i lied. Stupid people resort to fighting as a last ditch effort to prove their point because they lack the mental capabilities to do it in words :)

Grover
07-08-2003, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by Becca_007@Jul 8 2003, 03:22 PM
I'm interested in knowing what everyone's stock times were. I want to know how my first runs compare.
The best my car ran stock was a 14.06 @100 with a 2.07 60' time. Now it's at least 1 second and 10 mph faster.

King of Awesome
07-08-2003, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by PurpleHaze95@Jul 8 2003, 03:45 PM
I don't want to see this board turn into a big flame war, or this club turn into a big fight. Then what are people going to think when they stop by the forum to check the club out?
Not gonna happen. Its been temporarily fixed, pending further action.

Q
07-08-2003, 05:11 PM
Plain and simple.

Trey your a useless fuck and I have no use for you. Steer clear, I will fuck you up if you so much as look at me wrong. Say what you will about my lack of words, but you arent worth my words. You dont realize what your playing with, seriously.

Jason stated his side of a story, your punk ass cant seem to handle the rebutles that it recieved. Whether it was due to your ego, or the truth, I dont really care. Its called an opinion, deal with it. Obviously I'm not the only one who has a low opinion of you. Maybe something you might want to look at.

As for my car, I really dont give a shit what you think. My car is just that, my car. I enjoy it, I am happy with it, and it has proven to me that it has 400 rwhp. Until I get it dialed in, gears changed and various other things, it will run slower then I want. Key here is it is still running faster then your twisted piece of junk. You wanna race, bring it. Someone wins, someone loses. Big deal. Now if you would like to be a productive member of the club, feel free. If not see your way out. Simple as that.

Q

King of Awesome
07-08-2003, 05:16 PM
Alright Trey, you've been turned back on.

This goes for everyone: NO MORE CRAP. Simple enough 'eh?

Q
07-08-2003, 05:24 PM
topic dies here